Comments on: The Truth About Max Baer http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/archives/685 Neefer Sews, Crochets, Crafts, Swims, and Blathers about Kids and Her Stuggles with an Eating Disorder Mon, 07 Feb 2011 07:50:10 -0800 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Aaron Eblen http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/archives/685/comment-page-1#comment-110062 Aaron Eblen Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:07:49 +0000 http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/?p=685#comment-110062 I have seen the movie and though not a big boxing fan I did enjoy it. When I watched it to be honest I had no idea who Max Baer was, and even after the movie I didn't give it much thought. But after recent events in my life I have found out some intresting news and I am hoping that someone here may be able to help me. My Grandfather was a amateur boxer while serving in the US Army and fought a exhibition match against Max Baer. Now I am told that this match took place after Max retired and was in his 40's but other than that I have no information. My grandfather passed away when I was very young (8 years old) and I only learned of this a few days ago. I am hoping that someone might be able to point me in the right direction on where I can get some information about my grandfathers match against him. My Grandfathers name was Austin D. McDermott, you can Email any information to aaroneblen@hotmail.com I have seen the movie and though not a big boxing fan I did enjoy it. When I watched it to be honest I had no idea who Max Baer was, and even after the movie I didn’t give it much thought. But after recent events in my life I have found out some intresting news and I am hoping that someone here may be able to help me.
My Grandfather was a amateur boxer while serving in the US Army and fought a exhibition match against Max Baer. Now I am told that this match took place after Max retired and was in his 40′s but other than that I have no information. My grandfather passed away when I was very young (8 years old) and I only learned of this a few days ago. I am hoping that someone might be able to point me in the right direction on where I can get some information about my grandfathers match against him. My Grandfathers name was Austin D. McDermott, you can Email any information to aaroneblen@hotmail.com

]]> By: George http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/archives/685/comment-page-1#comment-109972 George Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:02:57 +0000 http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/?p=685#comment-109972 I knew Max Bear when I was a kid in Sacramento. George Lee an old time boxer who was one of the best small fighters ever from Sacramento worked with Max and could never get him to work on his game. It was all too easy for him. He was wonderful boxer. If he had worked on his game, he may have been the best ever. George would get mad at him and Max would just tell George "Have some fun George...Life is for fun" Max was a wonderful guy...funloving in every way. He was not a bad guy at all. His brother Buddy was the same. I use to go into his store in Sacramento and he would take the time to talk to us kids. But it was George Lee who told me , "Max has never got over the ring death...He has never got over it!" He used the fun loving stuff to cover his pain. And he did hold back sometime when he was overpowering a man." But Max was a wonderful man! George I knew Max Bear when I was a kid in Sacramento. George Lee an old time boxer who was one of the best small fighters ever from Sacramento worked with Max
and could never get him to work on his game. It was all too easy for him. He was wonderful boxer. If he had worked on his game, he may have been the best ever.
George would get mad at him and Max would just tell George “Have some fun George…Life is for fun” Max was a wonderful guy…funloving in every way. He was not a bad guy at all. His brother Buddy was the same. I use to go into his store in Sacramento and he would take the time to talk to us kids. But it was George Lee who told me , “Max has never got over the ring death…He has never got over it!”
He used the fun loving stuff to cover his pain. And he did hold back sometime
when he was overpowering a man.” But Max was a wonderful man!

George

]]> By: Catherine Johnson http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/archives/685/comment-page-1#comment-24528 Catherine Johnson Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:33:01 +0000 http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/?p=685#comment-24528 The perception that Max Baer was a killer and a monster has been spreading across cyberspace. I decided I couldn't allow his true image to be tarnished by one movie, for people years from now to see him as something he was not. I decided to set the record straight. For the last six months, I've waded through newspaper accounts, magazine articles and books from the era, read modern biographies and autobiographies written about the great boxers from the 1930s, and conferred with boxing experts via the internet to obtain background and detailed information. I've double-confirmed facts, dispelled or proved rumors and debunked or laid to rest myths about Max Baer to the best of my ability. I've put everything I've discovered into a website at http://www.maxbaer.org. I would love to hear from all those who knew him and hope that all of you enjoy this labor of love. I would especially appreciate if someone could let Max's family members in Sacramento know of my site. Thank you. Regards, Cat The perception that Max Baer was a killer and a monster has been spreading across cyberspace. I decided I couldn’t allow his true image to be tarnished by one movie, for people years from now to see him as something he was not. I decided to set the record straight. For the last six months, I’ve waded through newspaper accounts, magazine articles and books from the era, read modern biographies and autobiographies written about the great boxers from the 1930s, and conferred with boxing experts via the internet to obtain background and detailed information. I’ve double-confirmed facts, dispelled or proved rumors and debunked or laid to rest myths about Max Baer to the best of my ability. I’ve put everything I’ve discovered into a website at http://www.maxbaer.org. I would love to hear from all those who knew him and hope that all of you enjoy this labor of love. I would especially appreciate if someone could let Max’s family members in Sacramento know of my site. Thank you.

Regards,
Cat

]]> By: P-Dawg http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/archives/685/comment-page-1#comment-17788 P-Dawg Mon, 20 Nov 2006 03:40:50 +0000 http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/?p=685#comment-17788 In response to HEIDI VAN WAGNEN asking about Max's daughter Maudie, she is not married to Russell Taylor. She lives in Sacramento her husband Tom and has two children Steve and Staci. I am friends of the family. She is a wonderful person and has a great family. Her son has a little Max resemblence and he named his son Max, who is a little tank! In response to HEIDI VAN WAGNEN asking about Max’s daughter Maudie, she is not married to Russell Taylor. She lives in Sacramento her husband Tom and has two children Steve and Staci. I am friends of the family. She is a wonderful person and has a great family. Her son has a little Max resemblence and he named his son Max, who is a little tank!

]]> By: Mark Johnson http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/archives/685/comment-page-1#comment-15739 Mark Johnson Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:00:32 +0000 http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/?p=685#comment-15739 I just pulled up an article from Time Magazine (time.com). It is interesting because it is a contemporary report on the Braddock/Baer fight from 1934. Contrary to what Zechler says above, this article says that Baer was 18 pounds heavier and had a 3-inch advantage in reach. It also says that Baer was seriously afraid he might kill Braddock. Here's the link to the article: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,754921-1,00.html If the link doesn't work, you can find the article just by searching time.com for "baer braddock". I just pulled up an article from Time Magazine (time.com). It is interesting because it is a contemporary report on the Braddock/Baer fight from 1934. Contrary to what Zechler says above, this article says that Baer was 18 pounds heavier and had a 3-inch advantage in reach. It also says that Baer was seriously afraid he might kill Braddock.

Here’s the link to the article: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,754921-1,00.html

If the link doesn’t work, you can find the article just by searching time.com for “baer braddock”.

]]> By: SHAUN DWYER http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/archives/685/comment-page-1#comment-14896 SHAUN DWYER Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:55:30 +0000 http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/?p=685#comment-14896 The same analogy can be made in the movie, "The Hurricane". In the film Rubin Carter fights Joey Giardello and is allegedely "robbed " of the decision. However the truth is that he was well and truly beaten. Again this is the slant HOLLYWOOD, put on the fight. I admire Rubin Carters fight to clear his name after being wrongly convicted of a triple murder. The same can be said of The Cinderella man, everyone loves to see the underdog overcome the opposition. The one thing for sure is that Max Baer, Jimmy Braddock & Rubin Carter all deserve their place in Boxing history for their acheivements. The same analogy can be made in the movie, “The Hurricane”. In the film Rubin Carter fights Joey Giardello and is allegedely “robbed ” of the decision. However the truth is that he was well and truly beaten. Again this is the slant HOLLYWOOD, put on the fight. I admire Rubin Carters fight to clear his name after being wrongly convicted of a triple murder. The same can be said of The Cinderella man, everyone loves to see the underdog overcome the opposition.
The one thing for sure is that Max Baer, Jimmy Braddock & Rubin Carter all deserve their place in Boxing history for their acheivements.

]]> By: Adam Berry http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/archives/685/comment-page-1#comment-11718 Adam Berry Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:37:55 +0000 http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/?p=685#comment-11718 I watched the movie and loved it. I knew before watching that Baer wasn't as horrible as he was portrayed in the movie. But he did ridicule Braddock, backhand him, and hit him below the belt in the fight. So it wasn't like he was a saint either. Not even to mention him being a playboy. Now I do agree he got a little harsh treatment, but everyone seems now to be making him out to be better than he really is. Just watch the movie and know that Hollywood will always twist the story, they have to in order to gain more interest and more revenue. The move "Hoosiers" is a great example, everyone loved the movie even though it wasn't 100% accurate. P.S. Elaine Kellerman, if you are going to speak and rant on about how smart you are, at least show us you know how to spell...that is embarrassing, its called spell check, but I'm sure you knew that given that you are all about looking things us on a COMPUTER!!!!! I watched the movie and loved it. I knew before watching that Baer wasn’t as horrible as he was portrayed in the movie. But he did ridicule Braddock, backhand him, and hit him below the belt in the fight. So it wasn’t like he was a saint either. Not even to mention him being a playboy. Now I do agree he got a little harsh treatment, but everyone seems now to be making him out to be better than he really is. Just watch the movie and know that Hollywood will always twist the story, they have to in order to gain more interest and more revenue. The move “Hoosiers” is a great example, everyone loved the movie even though it wasn’t 100% accurate. P.S. Elaine Kellerman, if you are going to speak and rant on about how smart you are, at least show us you know how to spell…that is embarrassing, its called spell check, but I’m sure you knew that given that you are all about looking things us on a COMPUTER!!!!!

]]> By: Mike Hubbert http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/archives/685/comment-page-1#comment-8242 Mike Hubbert Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:48:14 +0000 http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/?p=685#comment-8242 ...Come to think of it. Max Baer Junior made many television viewers believe that people of southern descent were dumb or lacking in intellect. His character "Jethro" on the Beverly Hillbillies was mildly retarded, who wore a piece of thick twine as a belt. I have met bags of hammers that were more engaging than the southern bone head Max Baer played on that show. If anyone knows anything about the way the game is played in Hollywood, it should be ol' Jethro. …Come to think of it. Max Baer Junior made many television viewers believe that people of southern descent were dumb or lacking in intellect. His character “Jethro” on the Beverly Hillbillies was mildly retarded, who wore a piece of thick twine as a belt. I have met bags of hammers that were more engaging than the southern bone head Max Baer played on that show. If anyone knows anything about the way the game is played in Hollywood, it should be ol’ Jethro.

]]> By: Tamara Godoy http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/archives/685/comment-page-1#comment-8239 Tamara Godoy Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:42:57 +0000 http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/?p=685#comment-8239 I think that Max Jr. should do a beautiful movie about his father Max Sr. I have not seen Cinderella Man yet and probably won't, I don't care for People who tell such lies on ture legends. Max Baer Sr. is the greatest fighter, and i would definately go see a movie about him. Providing it is based on truth not lies. I think that Max Jr. should do a beautiful movie about his father Max Sr. I have not seen Cinderella Man yet and probably won’t, I don’t care for People who tell such lies on ture legends.

Max Baer Sr. is the greatest fighter, and i would definately go see a movie about him. Providing it is based on truth not lies.

]]> By: Mike Hubbert http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/archives/685/comment-page-1#comment-8035 Mike Hubbert Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:53:29 +0000 http://www.oaktrees.org/blog/?p=685#comment-8035 I have watched Cinderella man many times. I love this movie because of the message of "a second chance" it drives home. Mr. Howard did the Baer family a dis-service by not being truthful about the Max Baer character, but I do understand why he did it. By making the character a hateful, hurtful man he is giving the Braddock character more of an underdog edge and that is what this movie is all about. Please give Ron Howard the artists license he needs to make a great movie. All that really matters is that Mister Baers family knows what he was really like and some people who are down in the dumps out there saw a movie that made them feel like things will get better. God bless! I have watched Cinderella man many times. I love this movie because of the message of “a second chance” it drives home. Mr. Howard did the Baer family a dis-service by not being truthful about the Max Baer character, but I do understand why he did it. By making the character a hateful, hurtful man he is giving the Braddock character more of an underdog edge and that is what this movie is all about. Please give Ron Howard the artists license he needs to make a great movie. All that really matters is that Mister Baers family knows what he was really like and some people who are down in the dumps out there saw a movie that made them feel like things will get better. God bless!

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